This was in 1976, '77 I applied jobs, different places, job centres tells me this and that and I was not--, they did not understand me I cannot understand them because the difference is --, we're talking different level, so I have to adjust and I told them I was really a salesman. And then one woman say, 'What were you selling?' 'Well furniture like this' I told them, obviously it's all not true but I took that job and I was really good at it, I knew it very well.
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